Wednesday, January 9, 2008

Secular Believers (Part 1 of 6)

Duration: 10:59 minutes
Upload Time: 2007-09-21 22:27:03
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BBC 2 Documentary Aired: Thursday 20th September 2007 Beliefs, and believers, come in many shapes and sizes, and not all of them can be described as 'religious'. This program provides an introduction to a fascinating range of non-religious people and their beliefs. Featuring an interview with Richard Dawkins You can find a playlist for the documentary on my Channel or blog: http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com

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adobster ::: Favorites  2008-01-04 02:38:32

HAH!, If I'm bright then that means religious people are dim :O
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falacy007 ::: Favorites  2007-12-29 07:23:55

FYI: this series is intended for 11-14 year old school kids/teachers in the UK. I wish my RE classes at school had included secular as well as non-secular.
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robotaholic ::: Favorites  2007-12-27 16:28:40

we don't know if yoda is omniscient either jhiken so DON'T BE ARROGANT!
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EgoGamaoKDerno ::: Favorites  2007-12-20 04:15:31

i'm agnostic since i was 8... humanism ftw.
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ALogicalConstruct ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 22:19:58

Ok, so you are an honest agnostic.... i'm cool with that.
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jhiken ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 20:53:57

Huh...Maybe so, but he was still an ignorant bastard (relatively). Is it logical to think we've come so far in a few hundred years that we now have knowledge of what may or may not exist beyond our Universe or dimensions (all string theories aside)? Theists and Atheists are arrogant and short-sighted. WE DON'T KNOW!!
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jhiken ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 20:42:22

I'm saying it could be anything. There very well may be no God or afterlife.
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ALogicalConstruct ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 18:55:24

Are you saying that it could be as simple as us being metaphorical axions in the brain of "god" and through the emmergent properties of our interactions we could create consiousness, if not freewill (unless we have it, which doesn't seem likely)
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jhiken ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 15:11:44

Right...I have no idea what kind of God or power could be out there, or in what shape or form it could take. My point is that we are part of some sort of higher "wisdom" (whatever that may be, including NO God or aferlife), and that whatever it is is far from our understanding at this point.
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ALogicalConstruct ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 12:54:11

That is because god woud be irreducibly complex, and given that he had no creator he had to come into being so all we have there is chance (a highly improbable chance). because if god didn't need to come into being (ie he existed forever) then why does the universe need a beginning?
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ALogicalConstruct ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 12:37:53

I believe the latter is much more probable, isn't the likely hood that god exists somethign like a number so big that you would have to start writing zeros at the beggining of the universe and you wouldn't even be done now....
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ALogicalConstruct ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 12:36:58

Ha, sorry i thought you where religious and trying to pull the "can't prove or disprove, so it is just as likely" card, i was planning to corner you. I agree that one cannot be wholly atheist because of philosophical doubt, i think the issue is how do you live your life? With the assumption of a god or without?
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jhiken ::: Favorites  2007-12-03 11:20:27

First off, I don't have any faith. The only faith I have is in the ignorance of humanity. I don't believe in any God, just the possibility. So, if physics could one day scientifically prove that God doesn't exist, I would trust science. However, there is so much that we don't know right now, and I don't see that revelation coming any time soon.
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ALogicalConstruct ::: Favorites  2007-12-02 20:17:12

SO then do you believe that one day physics could prove or disprove god.... if a physict where to come up with an equation that proved there was no god, based on the E8 particle or something would you relinquish your belief, or stick with your faith?
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jhiken ::: Favorites  2007-12-02 11:55:18

That is totally ridiculous. 1000 years ago humans had no proof of very distant galaxies. Does that mean they didn't exist? No, they just were too unsophisticated to see them (no hubble). Now, we should accept that we don't have the tools to make guesses about god or the afterlife. There may be nothing, there may be something....we are too dumb to know.
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